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Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Some (OK, nearly ALL) of the Silverlight demos shown lately at TechEd and MIX involve hosting videos.  The flexibility and customization options that are available to construct branded and unique video player controls with these tools is really quite amazing, considering how small the download is and the fact that they run on IE, FireFox and Safari/Mac.  I predict (and this is happening regardless of Silverlight so it’s an easy one) that we will continue to see more and more video presentation of technical content in the next few years, until it rivals and perhaps even surpasses text-only online articles.  And of course I think the two will merge, so that many text-only articles wil include a video with a brief interview, overview of some interesting code, or demos.

While here at TechEd, I also had the opportunity to talk to Betsy Weber, Chief Evangelist for TechSmith, makers of the most excellent Camtasia desktop-capture movie software.  Camtasia today supports a wide variety of output formats and codecs, one of which is a Flash/SWF format.  I asked Betsy if they were working on a Silverlight output for Camtasia’s movies, and she said they’d had a few requests for that feature, but they hadn’t fully decided when that might be added.  She suggested I blog it so that TechSmith could gauge how much community support there would be for this feature.  So comment with your thoughts, please!

Now think about it.  You’re a .NET developer and Camtasia user, and you see (in 12–24 months) that Silverlight is gaining some adoption and most of your audience (.NET developers) have it installed.  So you decide you want to enhance your blog and/or articles with some screencasts.  You can record them all using the usual tools, output to WMV or something similar, and then open up Expression Media to convert it to a Silverlight format, write your own XAML player, and finally add it to your page.

Or, when you’re finished with the movie and ready to publish, check the box to output to Silverlight, maybe pick from one of several template for the XAML player, and push the Publish button.  Naturally you can tweak the XAML yourself later (and it would be great if you could select your own templates).  I think that would rule — what do you think?

Published Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:23 PM by ssmith
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# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Betsy, I can't wait for functionality like this actually. (In fact, I'll just go ahead and figure it out myself - but I'm sure the masses would love it.)

Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:33 PM by Michael K. Campbell

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Opening up Expression Media to convert to Silverlight format, mmm... Sound to much hassle to me (and many people don't have Expression Media), far better if Camtasia can publish in Silverlight format. Count me as a beta tester for Silvertasia!

Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:43 PM by Edgar Sánchez

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Yes, I would like to see this in the future, too, and I already suggested this to TechSmith.

Michael

Friday, June 08, 2007 12:36 AM by Michael Schwarz

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I would definitely use this feature; allowing to publish tutorials on a silverlight site

Friday, June 08, 2007 8:06 AM by Peter Himschoot

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Would love to have it!

/Per

Friday, June 08, 2007 8:21 AM by Per Sundblad

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We're in the business of training software architects, and we're now in the process of moving over from a regional (Swedish) market coverage to a global one by creating online courses. Our first online course is in a Flash format, but we're definitely moving over to Silverlight in our next course. Having Camtasia directly create Silverlight format would be a dream!

Friday, June 08, 2007 8:22 AM by Sten Sundblad

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Steve I'm not so sure this is the case. Screencasts are different from regular video in a lot of ways in that they look like crap in small windows - they basically have an optimal resolution that they work best with.

I remember Nikhil posted one of his tutorials inline in his WebLog and it was next to indeciperable with any sort of resizing. Screen casts are best served in a fixed size frame or one that has at least minimal sizing varieties.

Quality too might be an issue. Screen codecs are optimized for text operation and if you try a regular video code on a screen cast it looks pretty crappy. Most screen casts run about 3-5 frames a second and often can get away with even less, vs the movie framerate which at minimum requires 15 frames to not be jerky...

Friday, June 08, 2007 3:36 PM by Rick Strahl

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Excellent idea.  Almost seems a foregone conclusion :-)

Friday, June 08, 2007 10:51 PM by Andrew Brust

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@Rick - That is why it is important for Silverlight output to be integrated with Camtasia rather than just being some conversion process that occurs after the fact.  Screen casts definitely require the proper software and codecs to make them look good.  This is something that Techsmith has a lot of experience with.  Most converters think video is video - which it is not.

Personally I think that TechSmith is falling behind a little in both Camtasia and Snagit.  They both have a great list of features but when it comes to supporting current MS platforms they are behind the times and this comment from Betsey just further re-inforces that.  Just look at tools like Windows Clippings and its ability to support Vista drop shaddows and transparency, neither of which are supported yet by Snaggit.  Even the Camtasia team took a long time to get their Vista version out the door.

Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:41 AM by Joe Brinkman

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Rick,

 As JoeB said, I'm hoping that the technical challenges you're presenting with regard to screencasts and Silverlight can be overcome by the Techsmith folks, since that is where they have a great deal of expertise.  You make very good points, and I hope they will consider them when (if) they implement Silverlight support for Camtasia.

Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:41 AM by ssmith

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i would use this functionality.

Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:03 PM by Scott Cate

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Camtasia Studio already supports "Silverlight video" via its wmv output. If you want to upload screencasts to any Silverlight video sharing site you simply produce a wmv from Camtasia Studio and upload the wmv.

The larger question is whether there will really be demand for a Camtasia Studio Silverlight video player that is produced along with wmv content. I imagine that many generic "Silverlight" players will be popping up that bloggers and the techno-intelligentsia will be using to embed and play back wmv content--is a Camtasia Studio generated player needed, wanted, necessary?

I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this.

Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:45 PM by Brooks Andrus (TechSmith Developer)

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I agree with most of what has been said here. I love camtasia's products and I'm a registered user and it should would help out a lot if TechSmith could pull this off.  I think they would get so much traction in this space with that integration!

Monday, June 11, 2007 10:18 AM by CarlosG

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I've been playing with some existing WMV files produced by Camtasia and attempting to host them in Silverlight.  The results have been disapointing, and I'm assuming it's simply because of something I did when I encoded the WMV files.  Part of what I'm wishing for is a default set of options that are optimized for Silverlight so it dummy proofs the process for folks like me who will screw it up.

Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:31 PM by ssmith

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I would love to have this also

Saturday, August 18, 2007 9:55 PM by Ken Tucker

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I'm quite late to this discussion but I wanted to add something: Its not just WMV that Silverlight supports but VC9? codec which is a lossless H.264/AVC variant much like EnSharpen.  So where lossy codecs look terrible, the native Silverlight format will be superb.

Thanks,

Shawn

Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:46 PM by Shawn B.

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

Are you kidding!

Techsmith and Camtasia are a must have tool for training and web development.

I really want to have the ability to us Silverlight to expose my Camtasia videos...

Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:02 PM by Don Shults

# re: Silverlight Video and Camtasia

I definitely want to see Silverlight support in Camtasia

Friday, February 22, 2008 1:43 AM by iamme

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:57 PM by John

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